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    Ask Dr. Gian   ....but read this first

HERPES

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HERPES

From: "Nuny"
To: <info@stdweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:05 AM
Subject: Worried


Firstly, thank god there are people like you who care enough about others, to spend you own time to answer so many important questions.

After my first sexual experience, I got symptoms of burning urination and a rash that was very itchy around my pubic hair. The rash/Irritation seems to come and go every 2 weeks or so, but mostly, just an irritation present.
They are not ulcers, but are very itchy, sometimes down my thighs and on my buttocks and irritated my anus. They look like blind pimples, but have no head on them, and usually go away on their own. Doctors told me that it was nothing to worry about, back then, (10 yrs ago) that it was probably just thrush, so i didn't worry about it too much, just put up with the symptoms as it has gotten better rather than worse. I am now married, (my second sexual relationship) and have discussed my concerns with my husband, but he does'nt seem to be worried. We want to start a family, but i am scared of passing it (whatever it is) onto my hubby and baby to be.
Is there any way of finding out - If an ex partner has had an STD? ie; if it is reported, and if that person has not let all contacts know - how can I find out if I may have been infected .
More importantly - If you have a cervical smear testing specifically for gonorrhea, will it show up positive if you have had the disease for longer than 10 years? If it does'nt show up on a smear after having the disease for that amount of years, how can you be tested for it?
I have had blood tests for Syphills, Hiv, Hep - all negative.
How do I stop worrying?

 

Hi Nuny
 
Thank you for you kind opening note. Your description indeed triggers a suspicion of a Herpes infection. You may want to discuss this with your Doctor and run some Herpes testing. Now you question about finding out about your partner. Sexually Transmitted Diseases are reportable situations to local Public Health Departments. Herpes is a reportable diseases in may states. However the report of Herpes usually ends up as a mere statistical information being the disease so widespread and the Public Health Departments understaffed . For things like Hepatitis, Syphilis and HIV people are usually contacted to obtain more information about partners. For Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and others is usually a matter of collecting numbers. However all the information given to the Public Health dept. are highly confidential and not released publicly. So if you want to find out if you were infected you must resort to STD screenings, which you did and which were negative. Good. Now, for you question about cervical smear and Gonorrhea. In the context of a gynecological exam, the best test for GC ( Gonorrhea) is the GenProbe done using a special kit and inserting a swab into the vagina and cervix. This test is very accurate and will show the presence of a Gonococcal bacterium.
If your are positive: how long has the bacterium being there? You are in charge of the length of time. But 10 years!! My goodness!! If you are negative: you can close the Gonorrhea case and think something else.
Finally the question: how do you stop worrying? You just do. Stop it. Come bank in the present.

be WELL.

Dr. Gian

From: Anonymous@aol.com
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:06:25 AM
To: webmaster@stdweb.com
Subject: Herpes
 
Hi,
A girl I've been intimate with just confesses to me that she has Herpes. I used protection when we had sex but I was mainly concerned with pregnancy so there was some contact before I put on the condom. I also performed oral sex without protection. There weren't any signs of an outbreak at the time but she is having one now. What are my chances of having an infection? I'm going to get tested regardless. I just need a straight answer. Please.
Mark

Hi Mark,
Although you and I have a body structure which responds to outside stimuli and, in a sense, we are like machines, we are also such complex machines for which making predictions is practically impossible. When we want a prediction we use crystal balls and tarot cards. What we do in science is called "Educated Guessing" which is an elegant way to say blah blah blah.. Do you know of any weatherman who would bet his life on his/her weather prediction? That is because the components of weather and their interactions are so many and so variable. Just like us human beings.
Now to your question: what are your chances to get an infection after performing oral sex or unprotected genital sex to a partner with Herpes? Your chances of being infected are HIGHER than a person who did not have sex with an infected partner, and HIGHER than a person who protected himself during genital or oral intercourse and HIGHER than a person whose partner confesses before and not after a sexual intercourse about having a Herpes infection. The Herpes virus is shed even when the skin is normal and does not require a portal of entry but only skin friction. And finally remember that during an encounter there are two entities dancing at the same time: the virus and YOU. You with your immune system and all the other bodily processes occurring all at the same time while you encounter the virus.
Mark, thinking about chances, predictions and probability or anything else may be entertaining but does not make much difference in the area of STD’s. What makes a difference is ACTION: like getting tested ( and I applaud your decision to do it; 2) getting treated, if necessary, and we do have excellent antiviral and I hope it will not be your case; 3) getting educated in the specific situation, like you are doing and...4) finally grasping the opportunity to make a change in your behavior so that you may prevent similar reoccurrence
Be well.
Dr. Gian

 

Hi,
Could you please tell me what procedures are available to diagnose
Herpes Type 1 accurately.
I am doing research for a legal matter in which a Female plaintiff (35 yrs old) is suing a Male defandant (43 yrs old) for them contracting Herpes Type 1. The Court Documents do not state Oral, or Genital Herpes
The plaintiff was serologically tested in 1995 at SUNY, Stonybrook
University Hospital in New York, with a positive result. The type of test procedure is not known.
 Also, do you, or can you offer any referrals, to provide "Chain of Custody" testing for Herpes type 1.
 This is for information therories only.
 Thank you so much for your reply!
Sincerely,
Daniel
 

Hi Daniel,
You must distinguish between a recent exposure with or without symptoms and a remote exposure. In recent exposure and during the acute infection the best testing is a blood test for the detection of antibodies to the virus of herpes. The type of antibodies present in the acute stage are called IgM of both type 1 and type 2 Herpes infections. For a remote infection, seropositivity and antibodies presence occurs usually a couple of months after exposure. In these cases the antibodies tested are of the type called IgG 1 or 2. The presence of antibodies is indication of viral infection. As far as a "chain of custody," you may want to request a procedure similar to the "chain of custody" procedure done in blood-drug screening.
Greetings.

Dr. Gian

 

Dear Dr.Gian,
Thank you so much for your reply! I know that it
takes away from your valuable time. The information you have provided helps me out considerably.
Regards,
Daniel

 

From:
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:13 PM
To: drgian@stdweb.com
Subject: I am worried about my daughter!


My 20-year old daughter confided in me just a few days ago that she is afraid she might have contracted Herpes from her ex-boyfriend. She said that early in the week she didn’t feel well and a few days later she had one blister that showed up in her genital area. She of course went on the internet and diagnosed herself with Herpes. Only about three months ago she had herself tested for all STD’s including Herpes and the blood tests came back negative. She informed her doctor that she had unprotected intercourse with her boyfriend and that was why she wanted to be tested. Her doctor did not inform her that she should use protection at all times, as a matter of fact she never even made a big deal out of the fact that she had unprotected sex with a Herpes carrier. He had told her that he is not contagious when he doesn’t have an outbreak, and she believed him because she knew nothing about this disease. So now it is possible that she did get this virus from him, and she thinks her life is over. She broke up with him, and now she has it set in her mind that she will never date again because there will be no man out there who would want to be with anyone like her, nor does she ever want to have children. These are all things she has looked forward to in her live and now she is just upset and cries a lot. I am truly worried about her when I listen to her talk, and I don’t know how to make it better. I told her that she should read up on this disease because there are many people like he, if she actually did contract Herpes. We have scheduled another appointment with her GYN who only had one thing to say when my daughter told the nurse about her suspicions, she said: “I already checked her for this.” Can you please tell me how I can help my daughter through this difficult time?
 
Thank you,
A worried Mom

 

Hi,

It is not clear from what you say whether your daughter’s boyfriend knew to have a herpes virus, and what kind, and if he had communicated that to your daughter. From your description it is possible that your daughter symptoms were a function of a primary herpes infection. What your daughter could do is to have Herpes type1 and type 2 specific Immunoblot or, even better a Western Blot, antibodies test four months from exposure and FIND OUT if she has antibodies to one or the other or both viruses. Call 1-866-478-3417. We can help you with both tests. Having done that…you have a place to start.
In the meantime tell your daughter that, whether we like it or not, our bodies are also home to many bacteria and viruses which happily share our living. Just ponder on the one and half pound of bacteria we usually host in our intestine…and the chicken pox, the mono and other many viruses, the staphs and streps and so on. They live with us. They are us…hundred trillion cells plus some more with the viruses and bacteria. There are people who have one primary episode of Herpes and never, ever, one more flare up. There are people who have flare ups once a month. What makes the difference? You make the difference. I have treated and counseled many couples with one person or both infected with Herpes. They can live a perfectly normal life. They need education in the matter, counseling and some many need medications. Otherwise everything else is normal.

So first find out and go from there. And that’s what you are already doing, worried Mom. Keep going.

Dr. Gian

 

From: Kathy
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:51 PM
To: drgian@stdweb.com
Subject: herpes

Hi dr grian
I cant seem to pinpoint an answer to this question: how long can herpes stay dormant for before an outbreak? Ive heard that once you are infected you will usually have an outbreak within 30 days. Ive been with the same partner -- only about 10 times of protected sex and the rest oral -- for 2 and a half years. He has not been with anyone else, either…. What are the chances that herpes has been dormant in me for over 2 and a half years or longer (sexually active for 6 years) and also, that I have passed it to my partner and it also has been dormant in him for these 2.5 years?
--helpme

 

Hi Kathy,

Picking up the virus and have clinical manifestations are to separate things. Why? Since the process is a transaction between the virus load and your immune system you can have a variety of forms. So you can go from nothing, or almost nothing, to the full “Herpes show” such as general malaise, lymph node enlargement, fever, tingling sensation and redness, small blisters which later open and leave wet ulcers which end up hardening out, crusting out and disappear. There are however situations where the process may reaches the first, second or third stage and then withdraw and stop and you may end up having only some tingling sensations or the appearance of a red area, or only of a blister that once it is formed shrinks, heals and disappear. In all this variety of manifestations the modulation of your immune system is very important and, of course, how much participation you contribute to the show with scratching, pinching, breaking, squeezing and so on.
Now, the virus likes the epithelial cells just below the waxy part of the skin and once replicating there needs to survive and has learned how to travel and hide. It has learned how to use the nerve pathway and  travels along those nerves which supply the infected area until it reaches and hides within a hub called “ganglion”.
There in the ganglion it may remain sleeping {latent stage} and never appear for the rest of your life or it may travel back to the epithelial cells of the skin and fire up again. Some people, not many,  may even have monthly break outs!!!! Two factors seem to make a difference: 1) the vigor of your immune system and 2) whether or not you are taking the medications available for this condition.
What are the chances that the virus has been dormant in you? I can’t answer since you do not say to have had a primary infection and since I do not yet make predictions!!!. But you and your partner can be tested and find out whether or not you have been infected.

Hope this helps.

Dr. Gian

 

 

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